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Episode 14 | Baron Vaughn

This week we’re hanging out with Baron Vaughn.  He talks to us about growing up in Vegas, performing arts school, race construction, privilege, double consciousness, and how attractive scapegoating can be.  We also get into what parents of color have to do/say to keep their kids safe, as well as the myth of fatherless black children.  For more on that, FOR SURE check out Fatherless.

You can also see him on Grace & Frankie and the new Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Return, and listen to his new album Blaxistential Crisis.  Or if you live in LA, check out The New Negroes at UCB Franklin!!

Additional resources:

W.E.B. Du Bois

Ta-Nehisi Coates – Between the World and Me

Bell Hooks – The Will to Change


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Episode 13 | Rhea Butcher

We’re late this week, but we have an amazing guest to make up for it!  Rhea Butcher showed up to talk to us about literally everything!  We dive into racism, sexism, Charlottesville, baseball, rape jokes, sobriety, and how to own up to our mistakes and “be a man.” 

The biggest things we learned this week are how to handle people with love and compassion, even when they’re wrong? and how to attend a protest without creating a riot.

Check out Rhea and her wife Cameron Esposito on Take My Wife (while SeeSo is still around!) and find her on Twitter and Instagram!

Additional things to read and watch:

By Hook or by Crook

The Argonauts

Tomboy Survival Guide

 

By the way, if you have any questions about sobriety or think you might have a problem with drugs or alcohol, PLEASE reach out to us. We are not professionals, but would be more than happy to share our experiences with you on an individual basis and help you find support in your local area.


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Episode 12 | Charlottesville

We had a couple of guests fall through this week and decided to keep it short and sweet.  With all of the crazy racist shit going on in the country, we want to speak out, but also think you should be listening to the folks more directly affected and want to save some time in your week to do so.

Check out some POC/LGBTQ/Female produced podcasts and independent news sources.  We’ll be back next week with someone who can speak to us from personal experience.


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Episode 8 | Ijeoma Oluo

This week we brought in writer and speaker Ijeoma Oluo to make us SUPER uncomfortable.  She brings up so many amazing points about systemic white supremacy and really challenges us to look at our role in society.  Are we doing everything we can to stop it?  Or are we living comfortably and quietly benefiting from it?  If you’re a white, cis-male, be warned… you’re going to be confronted with some ugly truths.

But we don’t stop there!  She also shares with us her fears at the mother of male children of color, what it’s like growing up as the only black kid in school, mixed race privilege, and we also tackle a very touchy question about transphobia.

Ijeoma is a phenomenal writer and you should absolutely pre-order her book, So You Want to Talk About Race!

You can also pick up The Badass Feminist Coloring Book!!

And follow her on Twitter!